Episode Summary
I had the pleasure of catching up with the veteran, serial deeptech entrepreneur, mentor and author Henry Nash to discuss various aspects of AI, the current hype, its impact on society, and its true value.
Henry, who began his entrepreneurial journey in 1986, has worked on a range of tech startups, including Insignia Solutions and Transitive. He is currently involved in leading IBM’s startup programs that support companies scaling through the IBM ecosystem.
He emphasised the importance of maintaining a focus on practical applications of AI, highlighting the significant difference between AI models working in a controlled experimental environment and functioning effectively in the real world.
Henry’s key argument is that practical AI applications that deliver a return on investment (ROI) should be the focus, rather than the hype and speculation often associated with the technology. We discussed how innovators, entrepreneurs, and businesses should think critically about the potential benefits and challenges of AI, and prioritise solutions that offer tangible, measurable benefits.
Nash also touched on the topic of quantum computing, through his work with IBM, which he believes is a fundamental change in the computing infrastructure. He predicts that quantum computing will become a core area of investment and development. However, he also cautioned about the potential security risks posed by quantum computing, as it could potentially decrypt any existing security codes.
There is so much more we have discussed. Join the conversation now and discover what it takes to successfully deploy AI models and become a successful tech entrepreneur.
* This conversation was recorded in 2024, before I decided to launch the podcast. Yet the talking points are so relevant to today’s hype-driven AI world that I felt the episode needed to be revived and included in the CEOR debates. It also demonstrates the reality that AI has not really changed much. It’s my counterparts behind the technology who keep on moving the goalposts.
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Key Takeaways
- 00:00:00 – Preview
- 00:05:43 – IBM’s current approach to AI and why they’re not in the conversation.
- 00:10:52 – Why businesses and enterprises perceive generative AI as high-risk.
- 00:14:15 – AI models work well in controlled environments, but struggle in the real world.
- 00:17:38 – Did the tech and AI sectors fail in educating and informing the public about AI?
- 00:20:34 – Henry’s remarkable journey as a deeptech and innovation entrepreneur since 1986!
- 00:30:58 – How politics and Brexit severely damaged the UK’s global standing in AI and deeptech.
- 00:35:16 – Where are we in the current AI hype cycle, and is it “real” innovation?
- 00:46:51 – The killer AI solution is the one that offers the real return on investment (ROI)!
- 00:54:09 – Can AI really replace humans, and who is actually driving this narrative?
- 01:06:11 – The role of AI in transforming education, prioritising soft skills and critical thinking.
- 01:25:10 – The upcoming excitement of quantum computing. Is it the new hype?
- 01:33:57 – The Impact of quantum computing on AI’s future and data encryption.
- 01:38:39 – The other side of the AI hype: The nihilists, AI doomers and the ethics bros!
- 01:42:09 – How AI is perceived by some as a divine being and above humanity!
- 01:48:58 – The tech sector seems to prioritise AI’s “rights” over human rights!
- 01:52:56 – Can regulation be used as a tool to prioritise safer and useful AI?
- 01:56:20 – The future of the current AI models and the end of the current bubble.
Our Favourite Quote from This Episode
References and Citations
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Henry’s full demo at Microsoft’s 1996 Professional Developers Conference (PDC) with Bill Gates
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‘We Acted Too Quickly’: Over Half of Companies Regret AI-Driven Layoffs, Report Finds – TechRepublic
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University of Helsinki’s FREE AI Course
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AI tools may soon manipulate people’s online decision-making, say researchers – The Guardian
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Frustrated with today’s ‘attention economy’? You’re really going to hate what comes next – Fast Company
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Forget the attention economy. Prepare for the intention economy – Fast Company
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Morally corrupt innovations are the easiest innovations to create – It’s the lazy approach with dangerous consequences – CEOR
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Brexit has pushed British scientists into the arms of China – Social Market Foundation
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The Elite College Students Who Can’t Read Books – The Atlantic
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AI hallucinations are getting worse – and they’re here to stay – New Scientist
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Trust, attitudes and use of artificial intelligence: A global study 2025 – KPMG
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AI-generated ‘slop’ is slowly killing the internet, so why is nobody trying to stop it? – The Guardian
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The Future of AI Under Trump and Project 2025
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The End of AI Utopia Thanks to Dumb Politics
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Generative AI is Damaging Children’s Mental Health and Safety in the Age of “Brain Rot”
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Why 2025 Is The Era of Internet of Sh*t (IoS)
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“Brain rot” is the 2024 Word of the Year — why is this bad news?